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11 June 2016 @ 07:35 pm
the process of shipping  
Does anyone else find it weird when people rationalize their ships? I often see in fandom discussions that when asked why they ship something, people give reasons like:

- they would work so well together
- they would be good for each other
- the show would make more sense if they were together
- they would make each other happier than their current partners
- they complete each other

etc. That's just so weird to me, as if shipping is something rational where you can just pick what you want to ship. For me shipping is literally just the feeling of SQUEEE when two characters interact. It's not rational at all, it's 100% an emotional reaction, so if someone asked me why I ship something, the best answer I can give is just to say that their scenes titillate me, I see sparks between them, their angsting over erach other really hits me in the feels etc. This is why it makes no sense to me to judge other people's ships. Would I choose healthier ships if I could? Would I make my ships more diverse in terms of representation? I don't know, I probably wouldn't ship anything if that was the process. Being able to just pick my ships would make it so boring, there would be no passion.
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I'm a balancing force of maturity... Or not  ;): delusionalerinm_4600 on June 11th, 2016 06:47 pm (UTC)
I think your opinion on it is the closest to mine. I ship it because I just do. ♥
a random javascript function: ann geometricjsfunction on June 12th, 2016 09:57 am (UTC)
That's a great way to put it! :)
Les divagations de Neljaflo_nelja on June 12th, 2016 07:23 am (UTC)
I don't think it's a choice. I think it's just explaining the reasons of their interest.

I don't choose the books or shows I like, but I can still explain why I like them :-)

For some people, shipping is all about making the characters happy (not for me, but it happens). They know it, it doesn't mean that they chose it.
a random javascript function: malia profilesjsfunction on June 12th, 2016 09:53 am (UTC)
Hmm, yes, I think these definitely sound like legit reasons for why people like a ship, I just think there's an important, but often ignored difference between liking a ship and actually shipping it. Liking something is a bit milder and more general. I like a lot of character dynamics but shipping specifically means that I'm emotionally invested in it to the point of daydreaming about the ship, but I realize other people might use the term differently. The way I see it, the question 'why do you ship it' translates to something like 'what is it that causes shippy squee in you?' and I just find it totally mind-boggling if 'they work well together' or 'they would make each other happy' is that element that could somehow ignite the shippy squee. I mean, if that's all it takes, that person should be shipping every conflict-free pair of characters even if there's almost no interaction between them in the show. I think there must be some other element that makes the ship appealing, and all those 'work well together' etc reasons are just nice bonuses and reasons why the shipper likes the ship but not the main reason they ship it. I think what I'm going for here is something like the Two-factor theory: that I think people often describe Hygiene factors as opposed to Motivators when asked about shipping.

Idk if this makes sense so I'll try it with a reverse example - during my FS fan phase I didn't like John/Aeryn because of his possessive and jealous behavior in Green Eyed Monster and her forgiving all that in the same episode, but that's not why I didn't ship it. All of that and much worse has been present in countless ships I do ship, so it can't be the reason. Instead, the reason why I didn't ship it is just the lack of a scene that would have started the shippy squee, the fact that I had a preferred ship for John, possibly the fact that it's a canon ship and other stuff like that that doesn't actually have much to do with the dynamics and scenes between J/A.

Sorry for such a long ramble on an issue that may be just about my own use of terminology that might be different from other shippers'! This just really made me think about this a bit harder, so thanks for raising that point :)

Edited at 2016-06-12 09:53 am (UTC)
Tinny: soap_mcdean sunset endingtinnny on June 12th, 2016 05:45 pm (UTC)
Being able to just pick my ships

Lol, that's totally something the rational part of me would want. Not that it's in any way possible.

I 100% agree with your point. I can't choose what I ship. I can fall out of love with a ship for rational reasons sometimes, if I really dislike what one of the characters (or even the actors) does. Not that this is very rational, but at least more rational than shipping in the first place. ;)
a random javascript function: rei purplejsfunction on June 13th, 2016 05:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I kinda get the falling out of love for rational reasons thing. I'd probably have that reaction too if I had any actually canon ships, they get ruined so easily. But for non-canon ships I can basically overlook anything cause the relationship part is already imaginary so what happens in the actual show doesn't have to change how I imagine the ship.